a situation exists where a very large fast moon coloured forward
rolling astronomical body crosses through between the Earth
and the Moon. This is a fact.
At this point I believe the Object's orbital time period is
46 years and one day, this is a guess. When
Will The Ancient Object Return
I recently heard about the Giant Impact Hypothesis and Theia.
It's taken me some time but gradually I am forced to ask the
obvious question. Could the speeding moon coloured Object I
saw actually be what remains of Theia? And yes it could be,
in fact it's gradually becoming glaringly obvious to me that
the Standing Stone Crater covered Object I saw is very likely
what remains of Theia.
If that is true then the incredible forward rolling Object that
I saw cross down through between the Moon and the Earth is Theia.
had always assumed that Accretion theory was responsible for
not just the Earth and the Moon but also responsible for the
ancient forward rolling celestial Object I saw cross through
between then as well. Part of the reason I always assumed the
Accretion process had to be responsible for the formation of
the Earth, Moon and the ancient crossing Object was because
I could never consider the idea that the Object I saw could
be a captured object. I still don't think it could be a captured
object at least in the normal or traditional sense. That said
today the idea that a mysterious planet-size body slammed into
the young Earth about 4.5 billion years ago and then the moon
formed from debris blasted into space is an idea that seems
to be popular and apparently proved by various scientific means
and evidence. If the astronomers are correct then today's reality
sees a situation where the core of planet Theia was not absorbed
by the Earth instead it probably exists as I describe orbiting
down through between the Earth and the Moon.
it turn out that the amazing orbiting Object I saw is actually
this theorized Theia? Maybe a collision with the early Earth
could account for the way it rolls forward in the direction
it travels along it's orbital course? If Theia's lower or southern
region collided with the Earth multiplied by the Object's incredible
speed imparting a forward spin. Could this cause the forward
rolling rotation motion behavior that the Object has today?
I'm guessing that as long as the core of Theia missed the early
Earth's core, it could have simply blasted it's way through
the Earth even in close proximity to the Earth's core and then
just kept going ending up in the orbit it exhibits today. The
Earth and Moon formed out of the same stuff maybe with a little
bit of original Theia somewhere in the mix if Theia left any
material behind in the giant impact collision. Looking at my
basic flight path image it's clear to me that if the Giant Impact
hypothesis is correct and my guess that the crossing Object
is Theia then the impacting Theia struck the Earth behind it's
core as the early Earth orbited the sun. The Object's collision
with the Earth would have been like a cannon ball shot through
a watermelon with the Object barely slowing down. Luckily the
Object missed the Earth's core or else everything we know could
have turned out very differently. Just a guess based on this
idea of Theia.
a glancing blow type of collision from the speeding object Theia
that was already rolling forward and already in the basic orbit
it is exhibiting today could have caused the Moon as described
by the impact theory? I used to think that the odds were that
one day it would be discovered that the Accretion type of model
would best describe the formation of the Moon, the Earth and
the Object I describe. Now that I have heard about the Impact
Theory and the idea of Theia I understand that this could account
for the Object I saw and the incredible precise orbital dance
between the crossing Object and the Earth and the Moon.
With the Object crossing through between the Earth and Moon
three nights before the full moon, and with the crossing angle
of the Object's orbit as I describe this would see Theia hitting
the Earth on a slight downward angle from the side and behind
the Earth's center. This does allow for the core of both the
Earth and Theia to remain intact both continuing on their separate
just don't know enough about how the theories work that try
to describe how the Protoplanetary disk accreted and how planets
orbit. I have to wonder about the Theia impact idea because
I had not heard of this idea before. I used to think that the
Moon and the Ancient Object were formed together with the Earth
from the beginning when the Protoplanetary disk accreted. The
only other alternative that I knew about was the captured object
idea applied to the Object I saw and that just didn't seem possible
to me. The
Object "Theia," just happened to cross down through
a previously formed Moon and Earth causing it's capture and
it's stable 46 year orbit? Somehow I can only suspect that this
type of scenario is highly unlikely at the very least if not
Even though the Object crosses at a point well out in front
of the Moon towards the Earth, it also crosses at a point that
is well out from the Earth towards the Moon.
I am mentioning this point because I realize that this point
can help a person to better understand the image;
"The Basic Flight Path."
the crossing Object's orbital path down through between the
Moon and the Earth with 100% accuracy is not possible. However
in general with a slight adjustment, The Basic Flight Path image
is exactly what the forward rolling Object's orbital crossing
angle looks like.
Adjustment: The left to right crossing angle and the top to
bottom sink rate shown are very probably to high. Slightly reduce
the crossing angle. Also slightly reduce the top to bottom angle
and this may be a closer approximation than the angles across
and down that are shown in my Basic Flight Path Image.
Big Is The Ancient Object?
the Moon and the Earth and the crossing Object I saw come into existence?
Now for me the choice is the Accretion Theory, or the Giant Impact
ancient celestial Object I saw does turn out to be a captured object
perhaps a spectacular collision with the Earth 4.5 billion years ago
could have resulted in the reality of our solar system as it exists
today with the Earth, the ancient Object and the Moon locked into
this extremely precise orbital dance with each other.
the Object that crosses down between the Moon and the Earth is basically
the ancient core of the planet Theia that is said to have struck the
early Earth. I know that has to sound a bit far fetched but I always
wondered if the ancient Object I saw crossing in front of the Moon
was once the core of a planet. Also I wonder if it's a type of mini
star? One that rolls forward in it's direction of travel. If it's
a type of mini star it could still also be the object thought of as
Theia. I have wondered about the troubling implications if the Object
I saw is a type of once active or intermittently active forward rolling
mini star type of celestial Object in various places on this website.
This does go straight to the heart of my very worst fears.
People imagine Theia as some sort of planetary body that was destroyed
and absorbed by the Earth causing the formation of the Moon. We are
all in an ongoing situation that will soon see the return the incredible
orbiting astronomical body that is the third member of the Earth and
Moon system. It looks like this aspect of the Giant Impact Hypothesis
possible outcomes was not foreseen predicted or considered. I know
the crossing Object is a fantastic thing, a type of celestial object
that appears to be unknown to science and undescribed except by me
with my words and descriptions, some crude pictures, clay models and
a couple of styrofoam balls and a pipe cleaner.
the existence of the Object I describe prove or help show that the
idea that some sort of giant impact caused the Moon's formation? Or
does it disprove it? I'm guessing the answer is much more complicated
than a simple yes or no. Is the Object I saw what remains of Theia?
It could be but I certainly don't know the answer to this question
100% but the answer might be yes. Incredibly if the Object I saw is
Theia then after it's impact with the Earth it somehow then orbited
back and has remained in that orbit till our time in solar system
history. The Object I saw orbits down through between the Earth and
the Moon as I describe.
I describe does exist and it might be what remains of Theia which
means that it may actually be Theia!
the core of mars should or does happen to approximate the
size of the Object at it's lower or smaller possible size
range. The scientists today are very convinced that they are
correct and there was a giant impact of some description.
Unfortunately these people's efforts are hampered because
they don't seem to know about the crossing Object, call it
Theia, and it's tremendous speed. Surly the computer models
they are using to attempt to understand the Giant Impact don't
include Theia's tremendous speed at least as far as it's present
orbital speed is concerned.
is thought to have struck the Earth at an oblique angle when the latter
was nearly fully formed. Computer simulations of this "late-impact"
scenario suggest an impact angle of about 45° and an initial impactor
velocity below 4 km/s however, oxygen isotope abundance in lunar rock
suggests "vigorous mixing" of Theia and Earth, indicating
a steep impact angle.   Theia's iron core would have sunk into
the young Earth's core, and most of Theia's mantle accreted onto the
Earth's mantle." Giant impact hypothesis link below
appears as if the giant impact hypothesis is correct in part. They
think there was a collision, I show the crossing angle of the Object.
The "vigorous mixing," they describe seems to have resulted
because of the collision they believe happened. Theia's core did not
sink into the Earth's core instead the collision striped away whatever
mantel material that the Object is thought to have originally had
and then the Object just kept going after the collision, at this point
rolling forward along it's orbital path leaving the Earth Moon system
behind ultimately destined to become a member of that system with
every return orbit down through between the evolving Earth and Moon.
"Astronomers think the collision between Earth and Theia happened
at approximately about 30–50 million years after the Solar System
began to form. In astronomical terms, the impact would have been of
moderate velocity. Theia is thought to have struck the Earth at an
oblique angle when the latter was nearly fully formed. Computer simulations
of this "late-impact" scenario suggest an impact angle of
about 45° and an initial impactor velocity below 4 km/s however,
oxygen isotope abundance in lunar rock suggests "vigorous mixing"
of Theia and Earth, indicating a steep impact angle.   Theia's
iron core would have sunk into the young Earth's core, and most of
Theia's mantle accreted onto the Earth's mantle. However, a significant
portion of the mantle material from both Theia and the Earth would
have been ejected into orbit around the Earth (if ejected with velocities
between orbital velocity and escape velocity) or into individual orbits
around the sun (if ejected at higher velocities). The material in
orbits around the earth quickly coalesced into the Moon (possibly
within less than a month, but in no more than a century). The material
in orbits around the sun stayed on its Kepler orbits, which are stable
in space, and was thus likely to hit the earth-moon system sometime
later (because the earth-moon system's Kepler orbit around the sun
also remains stable). Estimates based on computer simulations of such
an event suggest that some twenty percent of the original mass of
Theia would have ended up as an orbiting ring of debris around the
earth, and about half of this matter coalesced into the Moon."